Taylor "The Captain" Morgan is a modern day pirate who is fighting to restore balance and #MakeThrivingStandard through optimizing Men's health, happiness, and masculine energy. He is rebelling against the made up laws of society, standing up to the status quo, and rejecting mediocrity. He has rewritten the rules to live a happy, healthy, and productive life as a Man using The Captain's Code. With the help of his Crew, he is redistributing power and retelling the story of what it means to THRIVE as a Man. Taylor is a Marine Corps veteran, Holistic Lifestyle Specialist, and founder of The Captain's Lifestyle Program, a three month long high performance coaching immersion for impact driven Men. He has spent the past 10 years studying holistic health and has influenced over 100k people to become The Captains of their own lives. His work has been featured internationally in multiple health and business related publications, podcasts, and even on live news. His success comes only after four major "failures" and three life changing breakthroughs which he attributes to helping him embody Taylor 7.0 aka "The Captain."

Follow Taylor @captain_taylor_morgan on all social media platforms and thecaptainslifestyle.com

Key point topics and studies mentioned:

1. Taylor's life experience and his major failures that led to him launching The Captain's Lifestyle Program

2. Taylor elaborated the 8 spokes on The Wheel of Lifestyle Optimization (mindset, vision, brain health, sleep, relationships, nutrition, exercise, biohacking)

3. A man's quest for Freedom (Physical, mental, financial) Morning & Evening Rituals (CAGES & The 4-3-2-1-30 Method)

4. The importance of a MVVP (mission, vision, values, purpose)

Transcription

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Hi, this is Dr. Latt Mansor, your host on HVMN Podcast. In this episode, we interviewed Taylor Morgan in person to tell his story how he went from Marine Corps veteran to a CrossFit trainer in the Middle East, to the founder of Captain's Lifestyle Program. Captain Lifestyles Program is a high performance coaching program for men, so we talked about his inspiration, his story behind it, and what does he actually coach in the lifestyle program. If you are interested, stay tuned and enjoy this episode. All right. Hi everyone. Welcome to HVMN podcast. We supposed to do this recording two days ago online remotely, but internet was not having a good day, so, Taylor, thank you very much for driving down to San Francisco. We rented a studio today, and here we are recording live, so we got everything set up now so let's get rolling.

Taylor Morgan:

Let's roll. One thing I want to point out, you really enunciate the H. You said HVMN?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yes.

Taylor Morgan:

Is that a normal thing?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I think it's how British English. Yeah, HVMN.

Taylor Morgan:

Okay.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah. A lot of people actually pointed that out. Amongst many things that I say, like trousers.

Taylor Morgan:

Trousers. What about britches? Say britches.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Britches.

Taylor Morgan:

Britches it's like the same thing as trousers. It's like a-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Never used them before.

Taylor Morgan:

Okay.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Not that I never used trousers, I never used-

Taylor Morgan:

Nickers. I think that's underwear.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah.

Taylor Morgan:

Like old school underwear.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, but actually, before we start, should we have a shot?

Taylor Morgan:

Yeah. I was just going to say, I need to turn my brain on.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

All right, let's do this.

Taylor Morgan:

I'm rolling on 90 minutes of sleep. Let's get it.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

How much do you want? You can pour yourself.

Taylor Morgan:

Okay. Yeah, I'll do a double shot for sure.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Of course, you would.

Taylor Morgan:

For today. Oh, yes.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

So last hope on this quality, if this absolute will be great, because we've got multiple cameras. We've got a whole studio going on here.

Taylor Morgan:

Oh, cheers.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Cheers.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes. Ah.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

All right.

Taylor Morgan:

You know what? I drank basically an entire bottle of that yesterday fueling me on my night escapades.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Well, I'm glad we are producing products that actually help people then.

Taylor Morgan:

I recorded an Instagram video for HVMN the other day, and in it, I said, I was like, "Thank you guys so much for watching my lives and for supporting the product because you're essentially fueling my addiction to this drug." Because I used it so freaking-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

It's a food product with drug like properties.

Taylor Morgan:

Right.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

We got to make that clear, because a lot of people are starting to think it's too good to be true because it does so many good things. It shouldn't be banned in professional sports world and all of that, so that's the debate there. For all of you listeners who are not watching the video, we just took a shot of Ketone-IQ.

Taylor Morgan:

I took two.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

That, well, Taylor took two. I always do it before podcast. It really helps-

Taylor Morgan:

Always.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Wire my brain up, so-

Taylor Morgan:

You know what I've been doing? I've been giving them out.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Have you?

Taylor Morgan:

The new shots.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Those are really good sizes. We've got single self shots, and those are really good sizes to give them out just for people to try.

Taylor Morgan:

It's perfect for my podcast. Anytime somebody's a guest on the show, I give them one, and we do a little cheers before, and they get to experience, and sometimes mid-podcasts, they're like, "Oh, I'm feeling those ketones right now. The brain is on." So I'm getting everybody hooked on this stuff.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

It does take about 15, 20 minutes before it kicks in, but well, let's get to it. This episode, this is Taylor Morgan or Captain Taylor Morgan as he's known in his social media. Let's tell our listeners who you are, what your story is, and your passion.

Taylor Morgan:

Captain Taylor Morgan is who I am. Background, served four years as a machine gunner in the United States Marine Corps. It was Veterans Day yesterday. My days were all mixed up, and deployed to Okinawa, Japan, and Korea. Would end up breaking my ankle before my second deployment, which is the story we got into yesterday a little bit. We don't have to go in the whole thing, but-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

No, I think we should.

Taylor Morgan:

Oh, okay.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I think we should.

Taylor Morgan:

Okay.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

That was a very interesting story.

Taylor Morgan:

Okay, let's do it. We're telling the broken ankle story, and this was really the turning point of my life. I've had many, but this was the major. We're going down this highway and it's like all of a sudden, nope. Changes direction, screw, completely different. When I was in the Marine Corps, I was a heavy drinker. Pretty much every single weekend and would even drive back to base drunk so many times. I told you this the other day, that a few times my friends who were on duty would knock on my window of my car at 6:00 AM and be like, "Hey, you got to wake up and go inside and turn your car off." So there'd be times I would drive back to base, completely forget how I got there, wake up in the morning, car's still running, so it was bad. It was bad. And when you drive onto a military base, as I'm sure you know, you have to look the guard in the eye, hand them your ID, you have to talk to them. I just became so good at playing sober, because for me to be completely blackout drunk that I don't remember how I got back to base. I don't know. That's crazy, so thank God I'm still alive and-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Example of things not to do.

Taylor Morgan:

Exactly. I do not recommend. Why I was doing that is, and this wasn't consciously, I didn't consciously know this, but looking back now, I can absolutely see how this was the case. I was depressed and stress. I fucking hated my life in the Marine Corps. There were times when I'd go back home and I would just dread the flight back to base, because the leadership was more of a dictatorship. It was more authoritative, more do as I say, just because I say so, just because it's these kids out of high school that they got bullied and now they join the Marine Corps, they're these tough guys. Now they're in a position of power. Now the roles are reversed, "Oh, I used to get bullied. Well, now look who's in control." So not everybody, of course, but there was a lot of that, especially from my experience, not a lot of good leadership, and I wanted to escape that. So I tried out for the Scout Sniper Screener on my first deployment to Okinawa, which was basically five days of mental and physical torture. They are testing you to see if you have what it takes to make it in the Sniper Platoon. About 50 plus of us started on the first day, and here's how I knew how the weekend was going to go. It was a zero three or zero four show up, have your gear all staged and ready, and as soon as the minute hit the top of the hour, there were still people walking, some running to get here in time, and as soon as that minute struck, the instructors were like, "Nope, turn around. Go back. We don't care what your excuse is. It doesn't matter. You weren't here on time." I was like, "Okay, noted. Got it." And from there, just constant physical activity. Very little sleep, similar to what I had last night actually, but multiple days in a row. Little food, little water. This was actually the first time that I had ran out of water. There was no option for water, which is an interesting feeling to experience it. It's not like I was almost going to be dehydrated, but it was just that feeling of, "Okay, I'm out of water. We're still hiking. It's hot. I'm sweating. What's next? What's going to happen?" At which point I stopped by a stream and took some natural flowing water, which the Navy corpsmen were not too happy about. They gave me some antibiotics to kill whatever was in there. It was some of the best water I've ever had though. Anyways, back to the story. Five days of mental and physical tests, waking us up at 2:00 AM after two hours of sleep to create a plan to go rescue a downed pilot, things like that. And 11 of us made it to the end, so 11 of us passed the five days of testing, and I was the only one who did not get accepted into the Sniper Platoon, which just fucking broke me at the time, because the guys who I tried out with were all my best friends in the Marine Corps. They were guys from different units, so I wanted so badly to be with them in the Sniper Platoon and trained together, but clearly that was not the case and the reason that they gave me for why I didn't make it is that I didn't work well as a team. I didn't work well with others. So I could get through all the physical challenges. I could accomplish everything that they threw at me, but I wasn't doing everything that I could to help everybody else along. Even though from my perspective at the time, I was. A guy passed out and I carried him the rest of the way, and that's one example, but they're of course looking for that all the time. This selfless attitude, what I now call selfish selflessness, so you're still taking care of yourself, but you're bringing others along with you. I didn't have that concept. It was just, "How can I get through this?" So I learned from that after a lot of introspection that it's not about me, it's not about Taylor, because at the time my ego was fucking huge, really big, really big ego, and I got put in my place. They're like, "No, you don't have what it takes. You passed. Sorry, we don't care." I was like, "Oh, okay. Back to the drawing board." So from there I still had a few months left in the Marine Corps, and because I didn't get out of the situation that I wanted to get out of, it was still drinking every weekend, stressed out, having trouble sleeping, having to take sleeping pills to basically just get unconscious. Then at a party. I got drunk as usual, blackout drunk, and this was the first time that I got high. Of course, having the huge ego that I had, I took a hit from the weed. It was a vape pen, and first one, "Oh, I don't feel anything. Give me more." More and more, I don't feel it, right? Thinking I'm this tough guy who's got this high tolerance. Of course, about an hour later, I'm just fucking blasted off in a new zone, and as usual, I decide to drive home. I grab my keys and no shoes. I don't know where my shoes are. I wasn't conscious of this at the time, but I walked out the door with no shoes and nice dress clothes too, nice pants and a nice colored shirt, no shoes and I start walking back to my car and randomly the idea pops into my head that I want to climb houses. And we are in a very nice beach house community in Southern California, San Clemente, to be specific, these houses are literally right on the beach. You walk out the back door and you're standing on the sand. Super nice houses and I was like, "Yeah, I'm going to climb. Just have some fun." I came to this one window that was open, so I'm scaling the sides of these houses. This one window is cracked open. I go in, of course. Now I'm in this person's bathroom ready to start my adventure, and I look up to the right up this staircase to the third story, and there's a dog sitting up there at the top of the staircase. I was like, "Okay, well, either I'm going to have to run from this attack dog, or he is going to wake everybody up in the house, or something's going to happen." But no, the dog and I just made eye contact and he just put his head back down and nothing happened. I was like, "Okay." So I just closed the door, continued to explore the new territory. Came to a girl's room that was empty, but then there was this separate loft area that I went into, and there was a girl sleeping in this room, and so now I'm standing watching this girl sleep probably from here to that wall over there. Just like, "Okay, what do I do now?" I obviously didn't plan for this. I didn't break into, there was no criminal intent behind anything, so it's like, "Okay what's-"

Dr. Latt Mansor:

But not creepy at all. Just standing there staring at the sleeping Girl.

Taylor Morgan:

Of course, super creepy. Of course, super creepy. Right when I was thinking this like, "What am I going to do?" She woke up.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Of course.

Taylor Morgan:

And she looked at me. She was like, "Who are you?" Rubbing the sleep out of her eyes, just clearly dazing confused, thinking she's probably in a dream. I was like, "I'm Taylor. We met at a party." She's like, "When?" I was like, "Tonight." She's like, "No, I didn't go to any parties. I don't know who you are. I'm going to call the cops." And I was like, "Nope, that's okay. I'm just going to leave then." So I went back through the bathroom, out the bathroom window, jumped down to the sidewalk and started booking it back to my car. As I'm escaping, I think, "You know what? That was really creepy. I'm going to go back and apologize to this poor lady." I would imagine she was late teens, if I had to guess. I'm going to go back and apologize, except this time I'm going to do it via rooftop. Just why not? Now I'm on the rooftops of these two, three story beach houses in San Clemente, and I'm jumping from rooftop to rooftop, bounding back to this girl's house, landing, shingles shattering, falling down in the backyard, just causing a complete ruckus.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And no one woke up at this point?

Taylor Morgan:

Maybe they did, but they're inside thinking it's a meteor shower. I didn't see anybody, but I'm sure that they woke up, because I was making a ruckus. I came to this one gap that was pretty substantial, but at this point, I think I'm living a dream. I was like, "This cannot be real right now. What the heck am I doing? This is obviously fake. This is pretend so I can do whatever I want." And so I backed up, got a running start, and I jumped, made it to the other side, but when I landed, I heard this pop. This wasn't the shingles shattering. This is something in my body. My ankle was messed up, and that quite literally and figuratively sobered me up. I was like, "Okay, I'm in fact, not in a dream. I just messed up my ankle. This adventure is over." So I lowered myself down from the rooftop. Thankfully, they had a staircase that led down to their backyard or else I don't know how I would've gotten down. That's something I didn't even consider. This is actually, right now, in this moment is the first time that I've considered that. If there hadn't have been a stairwell, how would I have gotten down? I just got super lucky. This whole situation was super lucky. The cops never came anything. Anyways, I hobbled the rest of the way back to my car, woke up at about 7:00 AM, drove back to base with my left foot because my right foot was all messed up.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

So you were limping while you were walking to the car?

Taylor Morgan:

Oh yeah. It was a hobble, yeah. Past the security guard, mind you. There's a security guard who guards people from coming in and out of this nice community. I just walked right by him. This dude had no business being a security guard. It's now 2:30 in the morning, there's a guy in-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Bad guard dog, bad security guard.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes. Yes.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Sounds like scripted. Is this story real?

Taylor Morgan:

I promise you. I promise you it's real. I promise. No shoes, walking past this guy, we have a conversation. I forget what it was, but he was just completely oblivious to his job as a security guard. You should question a dude who's walking around with no shoes limping at 2:30. Even if he's going back to his car, just check on him, make sure he is not driving. Anyways, there was none of that. Come to find out it was broken and I would end up missing my second deployment, and that also broke me because this had the potential to be a combat deployment. Thankfully it wasn't for the guys who went, but at the time, there was the potential that it could be and I was like, "This is literally the reason why I joined the Marine Corps, and now I'm not going, so I'm not going to be there to protect and defend my brothers." So that also crushed me, and that's why it was such a huge wake-up call. I went sober for two years. After that, I completely changed my life around, started learning everything I could about human optimization. Started reading books, because up until that point, I never read a single book. Not even in high school. I despised it, so started reading, started listening to educational podcasts, started taking online college courses, working out even more, just doing everything that I could to make a complete 180, because I saw the path that I was going down. I saw the path of drinking every weekend, playing video games on my time off, because that's really all that I would do in the Marine Corps is when we weren't working I would be in my room either scrolling on my phone, which it was Vine at the time, which is basically TikTok now. Just super addicting, just sit there for hours or play video games and then drink on the weekends and go to CrossFit. I wasn't just this fat slob, I worked out, but I saw that's the trajectory I was going down, and I'd wanted to know more of that. That was the moment that I decided to completely switch things up.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And then from then on, how... I know right now you're running this thing called the Captain's Lifestyle Program, you create Captain's Code. How did that go from Marine Corps, changing your life, turning it 180 to where we are now?

Taylor Morgan:

Oh, good question. When I was still in the Marine Corps, I became a CrossFit coach and I thought that's what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I've always been a man of service. I thought that I was going to be a career Marine. I thought I was going to stay in for 30 years, and that was going to be my thing. Turns out that obviously wasn't the case with the poor leadership I experienced, and then I wanted to serve people in a different way. I wanted to improve their health and fitness, so I became a CrossFit coach. I ended up being recruited to be the head coach of a brand new CrossFit gym in Saudi Arabia, the biggest in the country. I got the email and I was like, "This is clearly fake." Some-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Nigerian prince.

Taylor Morgan:

Nigerian prince is saying, "Hey, the princess has been kidnapped. We need you to wire this amount of money." I thought it was a scam like that, because who gets an email from Saudi Arabia? But turns out it was legit. We had calls with them and everything. The thing was, I also had an offer to go coach in the Cayman Islands at the time, and the Cayman Islands actually flew me out there. Not the Cayman Islands, but the owner of the gym flew me out there to coach at the gym. It was a wonderful community, the beaches were gorgeous. Obviously I would rather be there to coach. It was an amazing experience. I took the job in Saudi Arabia for two reasons. One, because the facility was massive. It was literally a two-story warehouse with any piece of equipment you could possibly imagine, so that was reason number one because at the time, I was still training to be a competitive CrossFit athlete. The second reason, and this was really what did it, was the amount of money, because I just got out of the Marine Corps and my thought process was, "Okay, I just spent four years hating life for little pay. I can do two years, which was the contract for better money, even though I know I'm not going to like it." So that was my thought process. Money can buy happiness. Turns out that's not the case. I don't care about how I'm making money unless I enjoy what I'm doing. I don't care how much you pay me if I don't agree with you, your brand, your mission, your company, I don't care. I'm not going to do it. How I found that out was as head coach, I understood the importance of core values, so the first thing I did as head coach is I brought everybody together, we are going to create core values and a mission statement for this gym, and we're going to live by that. And so we created those together, and then as time went on, it became clear to me that the core values were more of just a check in the box for the owners and I was not going to stand for that. I was like, "No, these are our core values. If we're not leading by these, I am not staying on as head coach. I'm not going to go against my integrity just to keep the title." At the same time, I was going through this process myself, so I read The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, and then this follow up book to that First Things First, both by Stephen Covey, fantastic. In there he talks about the importance of beginning with the end in mind, so creating your core values, who you are as a person, thinking about the legacy you want to leave with your mission statement, things like this. So I was creating that for myself, and I found that this path that I was on was, was not it. It was not being a CrossFit coach at a place that was going against my values, because in general, of course there's outliers, but from my experience in general, the Saudi culture is complete opposite of how I want to live my life. They neglect their personal health. A lot of them are chain smokers and then they just flick the cigarette buds on the street. No regard for the environment. There's trash all in the streets, stray cats laying dead. It is just a dirty place, and slavery was just outlawed there in 1996, but they still have what are really indentured servants, these poor guys from Malaysia or Singapore that can't afford to do anything else. They're broke, and so they go to Saudi Arabia, they take their passport. Now they just are basically working for them, and-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I did not know that and I'm from Malaysia.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes, it's sad, and they live in these little tiny like outhouse looking huts outside of these gigantic, extravagant mansions. In the gym, we had cleaners, these guys from, I think they were from Sri Lanka or Singapore, and the athletes in the gym would treat them as if they, not quite slaves, but they would treat them as if they were their servants. In the middle of a workout one time, I had a client tell the cleaner who was doing his own job, he said, "Hey, go get my water from upstairs." And I stopped him. I was like, "Absolutely not. If you want your water, you can go. You can stop your workout, go upstairs and get your water. That's not anybody else's responsibility." Especially the way he asked him.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

In this day and age?

Taylor Morgan:

It was a command. He didn't ask. If he would've asked, "Hey man, I forgot my water? Can you please go get it for me?" No issue there, but he basically commanded it as if he deserves that from this other man. I was like, "Absolutely not." So those are some of the things that I didn't like about Saudi Arabia and once I created my mission statement and core values, it became very clear to me that I'm not an employee. I am going to be in charge of the amount of money I make, I'm going to be in charge of where I am at what time, no other person is going to tell me where to be at this time if I don't choose to be there. If I don't want to be there, if I don't want to do this thing, I'm not going to. At the time, I had already started my podcast and done a little bit of one-on-one lifestyle coaching, but it was primarily fitness based, and then with this realization that I was not an employee, I had to make this a full-time thing. I finished up a course that taught coaches how to create their own practice, and at the end of 2019, I officially quit in Saudi Arabia, moved back to the States again, right before 2020 and all the lockdowns. Let's get into that, how a lot of people can realize that they're not in the position they want to be in, but then they don't make the leap. I am very much a fan of burning the ships at the shore. If you know that the position you're in, the relationship you're in, whatever. Something in your life you don't enjoy and you know that and you're just grinding it out until some arbitrary-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

The hope that it will change on its own.

Taylor Morgan:

Exactly, the hope that it's going to get better, that when you get this amount of money and retire, you'll be happy. That's not the case.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Previously, in one of our episodes, I interviewed Drew Manning from Fit to Fat to Fit, and he talked a bit, actually, he emphasized a lot on the relationship and addiction with food, and that comes specifically for transformation, for body transformation, for weight loss, and that is the biggest hurdle. That addiction, that mental resilience towards fighting the addiction with food. What do you think is the main obstacle for people in general? Let's not talk about transformation, let's not talk about weight loss. Talk about career, about just in general happiness. What do you think is the biggest obstacle that people have right now to not make that leap, that's stopping them from making that leap? How do they identify them?

Taylor Morgan:

They're settling for good enough. Most people, especially who are listening to this podcast, if you have a phone and you live in the United States of America, you're living a good life in relation to the rest of the world that most of them have, or not most of them, but a lot of them have nothing, so it's all about perspective. We are settling for a good enough life, whether that's in your job, "Oh, it's good enough to pay the bills." Whether that's in your relationship, "We argue a lot, but it's good enough. What am I going to do if we get divorced?" Whatever. So from my experience, talking with men, they know that they're not fulfilled and they're scared to make that leap, which is why I wanted to touch on it. They're scared to give up their good life, even though they're miserable in it to go for the great. They would rather have the certainty of misery than the other uncertainty of, or than the misery of uncertainty. They would rather have the certainty of misery than the misery of uncertainty. So many people are scared of the unknown. I am the exact opposite. One of my core values is adventure. One of the reasons why I said yes to Saudi Arabia. That's a crazy thing.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Why would you jump from roof to roof? I mean, otherwise.

Taylor Morgan:

Why would I do that?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

That core value was materialized before you realized the importance of core values.

Taylor Morgan:

Well, even as a kid I was always playing around, exploring everything. There's a vision board that we made in second grade, and I wrote on there, "When I grow up, I want to be an explorer like Indiana Jones, just live that type of life." So of course, this is the person who I became adventurous, and I'm just now starting to tap back into that after me suppressing it for a little bit. But they're afraid of the unknown because they don't know themselves. There's this disconnect. They don't think that they're going to be able to achieve it. They think they're that they're going to fail. They what if the bad stuff, "What if I quit my job and then we go bankrupt? What if I get this divorce and what if I never find love again?" They what if the worst possible situations. A game I like to play is called What if'ing the good stuff? What if you fucking went for it? What if you did pursue your passion? Yeah, it's going to be challenging. That's the point. That's why almost nobody does it. That's why almost every single person dies with regret knowing that they left some potential on the table because they were scared.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And them not realizing the self-worth.

Taylor Morgan:

Yeah. Not understanding, I believe that all of us are truly limitless. We are bound by nothing besides the stories that we're telling ourselves. The stories that most people, myself, up until recently included, we're telling ourselves that we're not good enough, that we're not attractive enough, that we're not strong enough that I can't do that. What if it goes wrong? What if I fail in front of all these people? What if I get embarrassed?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

That point right there. What if I fail in front of all these people? At the end of the day, none of these people matter, but a lot of times, and we know, all of us know this, our ego gets the better side of us, and our ego slowly creeps up and tells us, "What if I fail? And all these people are going to say, I told you so." We are so scared of that. I, included in the past.

Taylor Morgan:

Me too.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

When I took the leap, go from Malaysia to UK to study for undergrad, from there to New York. Moved to America for the first time. Do you know anyone? And then moved to Germany for work. Every time I move to a new country-

Taylor Morgan:

Sprechen Sie Deutsch?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Huh?

Taylor Morgan:

Sprechen Sie Deutsch?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

[foreign language 00:32:24].

Taylor Morgan:

Ah.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yes.

Taylor Morgan:

[foreign language 00:32:24]. All right. The rest of this podcast is going to be in German.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, great. I need a translator. No, I worked for an American company, so I had to learn German for day to day operations, but other than that, I can't use German to talk about pharmaceuticals because I work for a pharmaceutical company then, but I think a lot of people care too much about the possibility of people saying, "I told you so that you will fail. I told you so that it won't work out."

Taylor Morgan:

Take out the think. A lot of people care deeply about-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

There you go.

Taylor Morgan:

Other people's opinions of them.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

There you go. Yeah.

Taylor Morgan:

I recently realized this. Even I, who thought that I didn't care about other people's opinions was holding myself back from a lot of things. For example, content creation. Almost always, I'm still working on this, it's getting a lot better. I almost always hesitate, and a lot of times I just don't even do it, make content in public, whether that's asking somebody to take a picture or video of me or me doing it myself. I get so uncomfortable because I think that they are thinking, "Oh, who's this guy thinking he's cool enough to get his picture taken or what makes him so special?" These are the things that are going through my head. And because I now know myself and I've defined what I call the MVVP: Mission, Vision, Values, and Purpose. I literally do not care anybody else's opinion because I know so deeply who I am and what my purpose is and the value that I'm bringing, that it makes no difference to me. You should be seeking out failure, so then you can learn and grow. All of my major turning points in life, at least the first four have came from failures that I then turned into learning experiences, so we have to be willing to fail and once you fail enough times like I did, then you start to sit down with yourself and say, "Hey, who am I? What's going on?" And that's why the whole first month of my program is dialing into the MVVP.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Perfect segue, so let's talk a bit about Captain's Code. What is the Captain's Code?

Taylor Morgan:

The Captain's Code are the 12 articles by which I and other captains begin to live the Captain's Lifestyle. It's the 12 most important aspects of holistic health, happiness, and productivity. Really, it encompasses everything from my current understanding. I really spent a lot of time thinking of what is worthy of going in here. It's the Captain's Code, the Captain's in Code is an acronym, so each letter stands for something. The first C is cold exposure, for example. I teach, and when I say I teach, I do this myself. The first thing that I do when I wake up is get into the cold shower or if I have an ice bath into the ice bath, so we can talk about your 8:30 AM wake up-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

No, I was going to say, because the last time I had this conversation on Zoom, I think we're so calm as well, and I was saying that I've never had an ice plunge before.

Taylor Morgan:

Oh, wow.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

So-

Taylor Morgan:

You got to come to the immersion.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

No, a lot of people was like, "Yeah, we're going to take you to the ice plunge." And I'm down to try it for sure, but I never had the opportunity.

Taylor Morgan:

We have the opportunity literally right now. We could go find an ice bath. That is a boring excuse. There are endless opportunities. You just have to seek them. You've been hiding from them.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Like I said, if the opportunity presents itself, I'm down.

Taylor Morgan:

Okay. Well, the next Captain's Lifestyle immersion is happening in April, which we do ice baths a bit differently at the immersion, we submerge ourselves-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I've seen those.

Taylor Morgan:

In the ice and start breathing with bamboo straw.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

You don't go for a beginner's course, do you? You go straight to that advance course?

Taylor Morgan:

Well, so I bring them through, it's baby steps. If they're working with me before they attend the immersion, we start off with cold showers, that's the C in the Captain's Code. Start your day off with a cold shower. Let's start there. Even if it's one second.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

So the second C, so the first C is cold exposure, that... No.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes. The first C is cold exposure. There's No other C.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Code, Captain's Code?

Taylor Morgan:

Oh, yeah, yeah. Captain's Code. The second C is connect with Earth and with fellow humans. Which is something we can talk about for sure, but at the immersion I talk about, we do ice bath classes, so I talk about how to do it properly, how to breathe. The mindset going into it, which a lot of it is playing what if the good stuff? Instead of trying to escape the situation or wishing that you were in the sauna instead of the ice bath, and this applies to anything, any uncomfortable situation. The more that you try to escape the situation that you're currently in, the more uncomfortable you will be. The more that you can accept the uncontrollable, which is the A in the Captain's Code, the more that you can accept your current circumstances, the more at peace you will be. Doesn't necessarily mean you'll be comfortable, but you'll be at peace.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

A hundred percent agree. When I practice meditation, the more I accept that everything is impermanent, everything will always change. It's always in the state of change and accept that, while I may not be comfortable with the change, I am at peace with it.

Taylor Morgan:

One of the most impactful quotes that I've ever heard came during the Scout Sniper Screener. It was one of the instructors. We had just finished, I believe it was a hike, and we finally got to put down our packs. The other instructors walked away, so it was just him and me and two other of my buddies, and he could tell that we were struggling and he was like, "Hey, everything comes to an end and nothing lasts forever." And that was just like, [inaudible 00:38:52]. Because I thought about quitting at least twice every single day. When I woke up in the morning and I was tired as shit, and I didn't want to get up, I was like, "Oh, I'll just quit." And at night when I didn't want to go do this again in the morning as we're getting a refill of the Ketone-IQ. That quote was able to help get me through it, because no matter what they threw at us next, everything comes to an end and nothing lasts forever, so I can endure this present moment for however long it's going to last, because I know that there's an end point.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And also another point is knowing that whatever happens in the past and the future are completely out of your control. In the past, you can't change anymore.

Taylor Morgan:

The future influence-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Well, you don't know. You don't know what's going to happen, so rather than thinking of that being in present, and that will influence the future, rather than worrying about the future.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes, which is anxiety. The only way that a human being can experience depression or anxiety is not living in the present moment, because anxiety is what you just said, worrying about what could potentially happen or go wrong in the future. Depression is reminiscing about what could have been in the past or your divorce that happened 10 years ago. You are now sad and depressed because of this event that happened 10 years ago. It's because you're not living in the present moment. None of those things are happening right now, so the more that we can become present to this very moment right now, the more at peace we will be. Not saying it's all sunshine and rainbows all the time.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Exactly. Exactly.

Taylor Morgan:

But you're at peace because you understand what you can and can't control.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And I truly believe that we can't control the future. We can direct it, we can work towards it, but I feel that there are so many variables that may show up that is out of our control. For example, you go out there, the weather may change and you're not dressed for it. There is an element of uncertainty to a certain extent.

Taylor Morgan:

100%, and I am going to imprint my will on reality. I am going to fulfill my purpose. I am going to accomplish all the things that I have in my head, regardless of what happens. That's just going to happen and I can feel it. As I was driving here, I messaged my content creator, Dave, and I was like, "Dave, we're going to be rich and famous." And he doesn't care about the famous part. I want the fame part because-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

He just wants the money.

Taylor Morgan:

He wants the money. I want the fame so I can influence more people to live the Captain's Lifestyle, which is literally my mission statement. I texted him that, and he was like, "Yeah, I feel it in every single cell in my body this is just the beginning of something great that we're creating." So I absolutely believe that we can influence the future. Directly control it? No. In that sense, no, of course, but manifestation is absolutely a real thing.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, I agree with that. Also it helps to put us in the right mindset in order to walk towards it, a hundred percent. What I want, also our listener to even think and even contribute to this discussion is if we can't fully control it, so what I learned during meditation courses and all that is to accept that there are things that you can't control, but you want to be very focused and hold onto your core values, hold onto your integrity, but also accept the uncontrollable, because the more fixated you are to make sure everything is perfect the way you want it, the more disappointed and more frustrated you will be if you don't achieve that, and that acts as an obstacle for your next step and for your next step. There is a difference between, yes, I'm manifesting my future, I'm working towards my future, I am doing everything I can, versus I want my future to be exactly like this, and if it doesn't show up like this-

Taylor Morgan:

I've got a good story for this.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yes, please.

Taylor Morgan:

So let me clarify what I mean by manifestation is real and I'm going to imprint my will on reality. I manifested hanging out with the girl of my dreams. I had just gotten out of a four-year-long relationship, and I... Depends on how long this podcast can go, we can go way back, but anyways, I'll condense it. I got out of the relationship, realized that love was something that I wanted to aspire to and have that genuine sacred union bond with somebody. At the time, my client invited me to a Dr. Joe Dispenza Advanced Meditation Retreat. I said, yes. I say yes to all crazy opportunities like that, and I was like, "Okay, what is the thing that I want to manifest?" Because if you're not familiar with Dr. Joe Dispenza's work, it's all about manifestation and meditation and drawing your reality to you as opposed to just hustle and grind and make it work. I believe in a combination of the two.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And that was how I started meditation, because I was in one of your calls and Pat gave the-

Taylor Morgan:

Yes.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, you didn't remember that?

Taylor Morgan:

The Mastermind.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

The Mastermind on Meditation.

Taylor Morgan:

The on you started?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And you asked me to buy the $20 evening and morning meditation from Joe Dispenza.

Taylor Morgan:

And you've been consistent with that?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I've been consistent with that, and also I added elements of love and caring meditation from the Spirit Rock Foundation up in Marin here. That was how I marry the elements of being hungry, being ambitious, being wanting to manifest with loving and caring, more accepting life as is to have that balance.

Taylor Morgan:

It's non attachment to the outcome.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, so thank you for that.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes. Thank you for sticking to it. It's profound, isn't it?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, absolutely. It really helped me shaped my inner self that I haven't really had time to work. Well, it's not that I didn't have time to work on it. I didn't realize I had to work on it.

Taylor Morgan:

Yes, because these things aren't talked about.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

No. In school, I was taught, this is science, this is mathematics, this is English, this is other languages. You learn all of this. Score A, you'll do well in life. You work out, you get a good body, you do well in life.

Taylor Morgan:

Speak to me if I'm wrong, but this is exacerbated in the Asian community.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, and I spoke about this-

Taylor Morgan:

You feel that pressure.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I spoke about this a couple of times in my podcast as well. For the longest time, the self worthiness, the value of self worthiness for me was all tied to objective measures. How many A's I get? How many scholarships I get? What school do I go to? What job do I get? How much do I get paid? All of these things are great. They're great goals to have, they're great ambitions to have, but ultimately, when it comes to-

Taylor Morgan:

If it's for you.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

But then ultimately when it comes to me as a person, as Latt Mansor, what is my worth really? If I strip away all these papers, strip away all these qualifications, who am I as person? What's my value to myself and to the people around me? What can I provide to the people around me? What can I say to my friend who is struggling with life apart from him saying, "Metabolism is great." Do you know what I mean?

Taylor Morgan:

It's great, so before I finish my dream girl story, which-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Sorry to interrupt.

Taylor Morgan:

No, that's okay. This is great. There reason I, well, one of the reasons why I stopped being a CrossFit coach is because I would have clients come up to me saying, "Hey, I've been coming into the gym for a year now. Why am I not seeing the results?" And I'd say, "Okay, well, how is your sleep? How are your stress levels? What is your diet like?" Their answers would always be the same, "I'm lucky if I get six, maybe seven hours of sleep. My diet is pretty good." And anybody who says that it's not great. And then they're stressed out from work, relationships, whatever it is. I told them, I was like, "You can't come into the gym and expect that to offset the other 23 hours of a bad lifestyle. That's just not how it works. You have to incorporate all of these things in, which is why I called my brand the Captain's Lifestyle, because it encompasses all of these things and it's the balance, which we can talk about my logo, which is why it's a wheel. I call it the wheel of lifestyle optimization, so because, and each one of the spokes stands for a pillar of health. Once you understand how to steer or balance it properly, you reach the center, which is balance represented by the yin yang, masculine, feminine, nature, technology. Anyways, another rant. Instead of me telling them how to do pull-ups faster or take a few seconds off their Fran time or whatever it is, it's like, "Let's dial in your sleep." Because if you're not sleeping well, your body is not recovering from the stress you're putting it through. If you're not fueling your body properly, something that's talked a lot about on this podcast, you're not building new muscle. You are breaking your body down, and you're not allowing yourself time to heal, so you're just making yourself weaker a lot of times, and if you pile stress on top of that, then an intense workout can just be, instead of it being a good stress, it can be an added negative stress. Especially people who use going to the gym as an alcoholic uses a bottle of tequila. They suppress their feelings by just crushing themselves in the gym, and they never actually get out those demons that are inside of them, so that's a whole nother tangent we could go down. But back to the dream girl story. I want to finish this. The non-attachment to things. Was going through a breakup, attended the Joe Dispenza event. I was manifesting this dream girl, what's the ideal home that I would want to live in with her in this specific girl who posts pictures of her beautiful home? And I'll keep it anonymous. That's what I was envisioning, and so I was thinking about this place, not necessarily her, but just that I wanted this real connection. Then after the event, she messaged me on Instagram, and mind you, she doesn't follow anybody, and she's got over a hundred thousand followers. It's like, "How did this woman see my profile? And then why is she messaging me?" And then it clicked like, "Holy shit, I've been manifesting this." It came in an unexpected way.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

What did she say?

Taylor Morgan:

I don't remember the first message, but we had talked for a while and then we actually met up in person. There's a whole story behind that, so we hung out a few times. I had manifested us hanging out. I manifested a few other things and then, so we're not talking anymore. That's the moral of the story, is we're not talking anymore and it doesn't matter to me because I'm not attached to that specific person. I'm just attached to this vision that I had. It was her in it, but it could be replaced with any, not any, but a woman who-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Can make you happy.

Taylor Morgan:

Not who can make me happy, because I already am happy. It's just a woman who, well, this could get into a whole nother conversation about love and what to look for in a relationship, but without going into that, it could be replaced with anybody. It's not the specific outcome that I'm... It's not how, that I'm attached to. It's the, I don't want to say it's the destination, but do you get what I'm saying?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah.

Taylor Morgan:

I'm so unattached to how it happens as long as it eventually does happen, and that-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, so this is what I talked about in terms of the future. You can have the core shape of the future, but then what comes on top as attachments as the variables, you don't know and you can't control, but you know where it's going.

Taylor Morgan:

I know that this type of relationship is going to come for me because I felt that, and that's the importance of feeling into your manifestations and feeling into your affirmations. Actually connecting with the feeling, how would it feel if I already had this thing? Once you have that feeling in mind, live your life as if that were already the case, so that's why just deep down, I just know, because I can feel it. I live this every single day that I'm going to accomplish all the things that are in my head because I'm living my life as if they were already accomplished.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

We have about 10, 15 minutes left for our podcast, so I'm going to play the devil's advocate because you know me, I'm a scientist, I love to dive deep into the details. You mentioned earlier that this is a yin yang, but your program is for men only?

Taylor Morgan:

Yes.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Why is it just for men and not open for all?

Taylor Morgan:

Good question. I-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Where is the yin?

Taylor Morgan:

Well, we absolutely talk about yin practices for men in there. I am not qualified in my own opinion, to coach women to this extent. Of course, the Captain's Code is good for everybody. However, my coaching is specifically for men, because I don't have enough information about women's cycles, for example, something that's super complex, something that I've never personally experienced. I don't know a lot of the struggles that women go through. I have, however experienced a lot of the things that men go through, so I feel like I'm able to coach from a place of experience rather than reading something in a book and then teaching it. Which I've been there before and it doesn't come off the same way when I come from a place of experience and showing them, leading by example, that I've found to be the best way to influence other people so they can actually take action. If I was super knowledgeable about women's health, of course there's men out there who, that's what they study, but I would always just take that with a slight grain of salt, because have you actually experienced it? So that's why I personally don't coach women, and I believe that really everything that's going wrong with the world today is due to weak men, and once men step up as actual masculine men, that will shift the balance. Women have had to become more masculine to fulfill the role of feminine men, so now there's this whole push towards girl boss, and I don't need no man, doing it all on your own. That was very much the alpha male, lone wolf mentality, which is a toxic masculinity. That's not what masculinity actually is, so the women have just naturally taken over that balance and once men can come take that back, then we can restore-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

But some would say that would be an empowerment if the females.

Taylor Morgan:

They should have the option to, but a lot of times I really don't think that they do, and this is from actually talking with women. They're burnt out single mothers, they don't want to work. For me, I get inspired by divine femininity. This dream girl that I was talking about, she inspired me to really start taking action into my brand because I'm like, "Wow, I will do anything that I possibly can to have this and to be as free as her." Because she's just existing. This is the power of the feminine. They inspire simply by being, by existing. The masculine, that's absolutely not the case. The masculine inspires by accomplishing, by making a positive impact on the world. That's why there's so many weak men today, because we've just gotten comfortable. We don't work out, we just sit on the couch, watch sports, go to a nine to five job that we don't like and we complain about, and we just do that on repeat. What is the impact that you're having? So once we restore that balance, I believe that's going to alleviate a lot of problems in the world from the lack of leadership to single mothers. The fact that there's so many single mothers and kids being raised by single parents, that's a big issue. We need that polarity between the masculine and the feminine.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Fair enough. In terms of your practices, so I know in terms of science, the cold plunge and the cold exposure has shown a lot of data for health and fitness and recovery, so that's fine. Red light, I know you are a big proponent of red light. I've read, substantial data has shown benefit to skin conditions like psoriasis and eczema, but not really everything else. What other data do you know of that you can share as to what are the benefits there are on red light?

Taylor Morgan:

I don't know the specific studies, and it absolutely depends on the quality of the red light that you're getting, the wavelength, the distance you are away from it, the EMFs, the flicker. A lot of these things companies don't account for, because red light and infrared light we're getting it from the sun, so it's basically a sun supplement. We know that the sun increases testosterone levels, the sun does that, getting sun exposure. We know that the sun increases nitric oxide production, which red light also does. We know that it helps speed muscular recovery, which the red light also does. Anything that increases blood flow will increase muscular recovery, so from my experience, I really love the red light, especially after a cold shower or ice bath, because I personally, I feel the blood flow almost instantly back into my body. Also, energy levels, the sun light is literally the reason why we're alive. It gives us energy. Same thing with the red light. It upregulates mitochondrial function, so I do it first thing in the morning.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Mitochondrial function, though I think that hasn't been completely solidified yet on mitochondrial biogenesis. There are some-

Taylor Morgan:

I'm not going to argue with you on that. I personally don't know the studies. I trust-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I did read about it. It's still, as far as I know, unless there's studies out there that I haven't been kept up with.

Taylor Morgan:

If you think about it, how could it not? Because the sun does.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Well, now the question is, is it just the infrared? Is it just that wavelength that is causing it or is it an overall sunlight that's causing it?

Taylor Morgan:

Let me just say, of course sun exposure is always going to be better.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Right. That's why-

Taylor Morgan:

I will say, unless you have the right kind of panel, a high quality panel, and you're wanting to heal from an injury, for example, or some skin condition, maybe got sunburn, red light is fantastic for healing sunburns in any-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Skin conditions-

Taylor Morgan:

Torn muscle or whatever, then I would recommend red light because it's more highly concentrated. I think we need both. I think get as much sunlight as you can-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Exactly.

Taylor Morgan:

And the-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

It's the same with-

Taylor Morgan:

Red light in the morning feels so good.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Same with food. When possible, go for whole foods, go for real foods, and then you supplement with it. Even though we are producing Ketone-IQ, I never advocate for Ketone-IQ to be replacing your full meals. Even though you've been on this whole day yesterday, you should not have done that. You still have to have your food, your sleep and all that. Lifestyle is fundamental, and then you put supplements on top of that, and that's how you optimize it, because without a fundamental level of base, it's hard to work off of it. One last question and on the more controversial question, that's why I love having conversation with you because you have no filter. You would say what you think, and I know you recently posted a post of about No Nut November. Tell us more about it. Why? What's the logic? What's the rationale? Why do you think that's important?

Taylor Morgan:

Which by the way, red light therapy is fantastic before sex for both men and women, because it increases blood flow to the area and to the whole body really, but it's fantastic. No Fap November or No Nut November, one of my clients posted this challenge because he was struggling with pornography addiction that he admitted to the crew, which shout out to the crew, your part of the crew, which is how you learned about the meditation. Absolutely.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Now you claim it.

Taylor Morgan:

He admitted to us that he was struggling with a porn addiction, which I had also struggled with in the past. I recorded the podcast on that with Zach Blakeney, and so I was like, "All right, let's go. I'm in." Semen retention is fantastic for my own personal experience. We won't get into the studies because again, I don't read the studies. I go based on how I feel. I feel like a God. Once I learned how to control one of the most primal urges as a man, which is to procreate. Once I learned to not let my mind control me, that was the last addiction that I had to break, was masturbation and pornography. I had broken my video game addiction, I had broken my scrolling phone addiction, I had broken my alcohol addiction. Now pornography was a big struggle for me and masturbating. And since then, since I've been able to control it and go weeks on end without it's been so powerful, because even Napoleon Hill talked about this in Think and Grow Rich. I forget when he wrote that, early 1900s. He talked about sexual transmutation, especially for men. Once you can understand how to transmute that sexual energy that you feel into some other creative task or project, the level of focus and drive that you have is bar none and your vitality. So there's a lot of different places we could go in this, I don't know for the amount of time, but the number one things that I'll say is that increases vitality for me, so just overall energy and how I show up in the world. I'm much more confident and assertive and energy levels, and then also, this is the most important thing, just being in control. As a man one of the most important things that you can do is be in control of, aka the captain of your own life. That voice in your head that's telling you, "Hey, we want the bag of chips. Hey, we don't want to go to the gym. We'd rather stay here and watch TV." You can talk to that inner voice, and you get to control who wins. By understanding how to control one of the most primal desires, once that's in your control, you're limitless.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, I think that mental training, really, really helpful.

Taylor Morgan:

That's the number one benefit I mentioned from the ice bath too.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

And I can share on some data that I've seen. They did look at semen retention and testosterone levels. They did see an increase in testosterone levels up until seventh day. The peak is that seventh day, and as we have higher testosterone, it will help with recovery, will help with muscle building and all of that. Testosterone is an anabolic steroids, so given the right nutrition and the right stimulus, you are going to propagate muscle building and all that. However, on the eighth day, it drops back to almost baseline, so-

Taylor Morgan:

Can you send me that study?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I'll try and find it. I'll try and find it. What some scientists postulate is that because your body feels that, "Okay, you are building it up and you get increased an accumulation of testosterone." But our bodies are very good at balancing everything in a very optimal level.

Taylor Morgan:

It's not like-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Not so high.

Taylor Morgan:

Testosterone just keeps increasing?

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Correct.

Taylor Morgan:

Of course-

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Not too high, not too low, but it will be interesting for a long-term study to see overall, even though there are peaks and valleys, does the peak and valleys remain higher after a long-term?

Taylor Morgan:

We could just keep this podcast going for a while because there's so many things that I wanted to talk about.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

There's so many things I want to ask too. I would love to have a second episode and all that, and similarly, I'm happy to go on your podcast as well.

Taylor Morgan:

Oh, we're absolutely going to do a around two.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Yeah, we can do round two that is less focused on just ketones and exogenous ketones. We can talk about, I think through this podcast you know more about how ice view things, you know how I approach things, and I know more about how you approach things and how you live your life and the Captain's Lifestyle and all that, so I'm sure we can have very productive conversation there as well.

Taylor Morgan:

Absolutely.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

I'm afraid we are at time. Any closing remarks and tell our listeners where can they find you? Please feel free to open up the platform for you.

Taylor Morgan:

Closing remarks. I will leave it at this. If you find yourself in an uncomfortable situation, whether that's in an ice bath, you're stuck in traffic, in an uncomfortable conversation with a significant other, know that the more that you try to escape your current reality or wish it was different in some way, the more uncomfortable you're going to make yourself. Simply accept and surrender to whatever it is, and you are going to be able to be at peace with that situation. Where you can find me, @Captain_Taylor_Morgan on all the social media platforms, including YouTube. The Captain's Lifestyle Podcast, episode 135 I believe was my interview with you about all things ketosis, and if you'd like to download the Captain's Code, I will provide the link for that. It's a free download. It is the 12 most important principles of living an optimally healthy, happy, and productive life, and it's all detailed in there.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

Great. Well listeners, hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Thank you very much for driving down two hours to see me and recording this live and making this happen.

Taylor Morgan:

Of course. Thank you. It was wonderful.

Dr. Latt Mansor:

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